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7/26/2010 3:43 pm Last Read: |
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7/26/2010 5:26 pm |
Just as you said, without food and water we WILL die! Do, or do not. There is no try.--Yoda from Star Wars Come chat with me & my friends in T.W.I.N.K.S.
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7/26/2010 5:55 pm |
Just as you said, without food and water we WILL die! Do, or do not. There is no try.--Yoda from Star Wars Come chat with me & my friends in T.W.I.N.K.S.
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7/26/2010 6:11 pm |
It will be interesting to see how the thoughts of such people in our countries who make such decisions will react when the water supply no longer meets our needs ... I can just picture it ... suddenly it will be someone else's fault that nothing was done to avoid that problem. Sometimes it seems to me that mankind is not the smartest of God's creations. Whitney
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7/26/2010 7:30 pm |
It will be interesting to see how the thoughts of such people in our countries who make such decisions will react when the water supply no longer meets our needs ... I can just picture it ... suddenly it will be someone else's fault that nothing was done to avoid that problem. Sometimes it seems to me that mankind is not the smartest of God's creations. Do, or do not. There is no try.--Yoda from Star Wars Come chat with me & my friends in T.W.I.N.K.S.
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 7/26/2010 7:53 pm |
No water is not a basic right in the U.S.A.! It is not guaranteed in the constitution or any where in U.S. law. You can own rural land with no wright to water. You can buy water rights and trade them for a well permit. If you live in a district that supplies water you must pay for it otherwise you will be disconnected. So no basic right to water in the U.S..
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7/26/2010 8:22 pm |
No water is not a basic right in the U.S.A.! It is not guaranteed in the constitution or any where in U.S. law. You can own rural land with no wright to water. You can buy water rights and trade them for a well permit. If you live in a district that supplies water you must pay for it otherwise you will be disconnected. So no basic right to water in the U.S.. Do, or do not. There is no try.--Yoda from Star Wars Come chat with me & my friends in T.W.I.N.K.S.
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7/26/2010 9:50 pm |
It's no more a basic right then that of oil or food. Water needs will likely become more of what wars are fought over in the future then oil. It is a great Idea to share and help as much as you can but there is a point were you need to protect the things you have for self preservation. That may sound cold but with the population growing and already above demand for basics it will be a world of keep what you have and take over what you need. Glen
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7/26/2010 10:20 pm |
No water is not a basic right in the U.S.A.! It is not guaranteed in the constitution or any where in U.S. law. You can own rural land with no wright to water. You can buy water rights and trade them for a well permit. If you live in a district that supplies water you must pay for it otherwise you will be disconnected. So no basic right to water in the U.S.. But of course local officials are mandating that many of them tap in. But in reality all they really have it do is pay a tap in fee and then not pay to use the public system and keep on getting the free water--out of their wells. Do, or do not. There is no try.--Yoda from Star Wars Come chat with me & my friends in T.W.I.N.K.S.
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7/26/2010 10:27 pm |
Boys! Boys! Let's play nice! You're both right! In this country we do pay for water!(I shoud know; it just went up, arround here) But let us go,suddenly, dry and none of us will last very long! Just think; Rioting in the streets, water will be worth more than GOLD!!! Lets hope sensible mind make the right decissions.
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7/27/2010 3:49 am |
Years ago a wealthy land owner up the road from my folks home dug mutiple wells on his property.His claim was the other wells were causing his cow pond to run low in summer months.The pond was spring water feed,meaning its source for water came from the ground.There for about 10 years it was a battle for who had the strongest well pump.Then further greed hit the land owner in 2001.He sold his land and cows and horse's to a real esate developer..Now our well and others down the road have plenty of water year round.The key to having water in our future is the same key that was dreamed up in the 50's and 60'.Digging ponds and lakes.Putting dams on creeks in alabama were planners vision in the late 40's early 50's of having enough water to supply the people in the future..Lake Purdy was dug and dammed in the late 40's to supply water to birmingham and its suburbs.Smith lake dam was built in 1959,cuz those planners realized the population growth would out grow lake purdys capacity..Water treatment plants started springing up on every major creek..My best investment into water came from my moonshine drinking days.I have a hundred galloon distilery..It can turn creek water into safe drinking water..Peace
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7/27/2010 4:29 am |
we can last longer without food than we can without water, take care your turn dont come
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7/27/2010 10:50 am |
Years ago a wealthy land owner up the road from my folks home dug mutiple wells on his property.His claim was the other wells were causing his cow pond to run low in summer months.The pond was spring water feed,meaning its source for water came from the ground.There for about 10 years it was a battle for who had the strongest well pump.Then further greed hit the land owner in 2001.He sold his land and cows and horse's to a real esate developer..Now our well and others down the road have plenty of water year round.The key to having water in our future is the same key that was dreamed up in the 50's and 60'.Digging ponds and lakes.Putting dams on creeks in alabama were planners vision in the late 40's early 50's of having enough water to supply the people in the future..Lake Purdy was dug and dammed in the late 40's to supply water to birmingham and its suburbs.Smith lake dam was built in 1959,cuz those planners realized the population growth would out grow lake purdys capacity..Water treatment plants started springing up on every major creek..My best investment into water came from my moonshine drinking days.I have a hundred galloon distilery..It can turn creek water into safe drinking water..Peace Do, or do not. There is no try.--Yoda from Star Wars Come chat with me & my friends in T.W.I.N.K.S.
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7/27/2010 11:59 am |
All "basic human rights" are social constructs. Even the "right" to live is a social construct. That said, most civilizations have encoded in some fashion the premise of a list of basic rights accorded to members of their society (admittedly oft with broad caveats as to what constitutes membership in said society). Declaring that water is basic right is a healthful meme, a hopeful sign of the ongoing psycho-social development and maturation of the human race towards a more balanced and life affirming approach to its ongoing shared planetary existence.
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7/27/2010 2:30 pm |
This smells like a scam to get the wealthy nations to provide water for the poorer, arid nations. There are some areas of the earth where it has not rained for over one hundred years. Nobody who decides to live there has a reasonable expectation of water. We also have no obligation to provide water for largely desert nations. If the people there decide to double their population, it is their responsibility to provide for their own necessities. The late Sam Kinnison tried to do a comedy routine about it. He screamed that they lived on sand. Nothing would grow so they should move. It is also their fault that these people cling to such an extreme religion that nobody wants them.
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7/27/2010 7:35 pm |
let's take your water away and then see how you feel! I'd say after about 15 days you will croak from thirst, cause obviously you do not realize we ALL need water to LIVE!
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7/28/2010 2:52 am |
Everyone has the right to live! Water is an essential nutrient for life. Let's not abuse this natural resource and conserve!
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7/28/2010 3:29 pm |
Search out the documentary "Blue Gold" Its appalling what these multinationals are doing worldwide (such a Mexico City facing a drought due to crooked dealings with water rights) In countries where cola companies suck up the fresh water, bottle it up and ship it away so the locals are forced to pay up or drink from disease filled ditches (Coke is cheaper than bottled water in these countries)
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7/29/2010 6:19 pm |
Has anyone noticed that 3/4 of the Earth's surface is water? I got one word for you; Desalination. If it can be done in the middle east then we can do it here. Until then, I have the right to turn on my faucet, or the left if I want hot water.
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7/30/2010 5:11 pm |
Ah, Spiritgypsy47, be aware that "a need for life" may be a statement of biology, but it confers no "rights" unless the social construct designates said life itself to be either needful or inherently worthy of the protective force of social coercion. Values are abstract principles, not physical truths. In truth, 'moros' is the product of social consensus, the encoded sum of the 'ethos' of all participating individuals. From this root we derive our modern understandings of what we so blithely call ethics and morality. As a product of an advanced and prosperous civilization, we assume a set of values that are kinder to those who are less fortunate than we are. But witness Rwanda, North Korea, Dafur, Zimbabwe: The lives of others are not so universally precious or valued. If we are to understand the world, we must understand the nature of not only good and evil, but knowledge and wisdom, compassion and indifference, passion and restraint. True, power without morality leads to tyranny and evil, but morality without power is meaningless. If we would change the world for the better, we must both understand the gulfs we must cross and the sheer magnitude of the task we face. For good or ill, the only rights are those we choose to give and in trust assume the responsibility for.
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8/1/2010 8:31 am |
I had the same thoughts, then I saw how multinational corporations would go into poor countries and lock up the water rights in return for forgiving debt, then they suck up all their fresh water and export it. Contrary to what you may think, there is a very limited amount of fresh water. As with anything else, it isn't a matter of race, patriotism etc, it boils down to greed and corporations who want people fighting so they can continue their financial gain.
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8/1/2010 8:35 am |
Has anyone noticed that 3/4 of the Earth's surface is water? I got one word for you; Desalination. If it can be done in the middle east then we can do it here. Until then, I have the right to turn on my faucet, or the left if I want hot water.
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8/1/2010 7:53 pm |
FYI - At any given instant in time, the total global supply of potable water on planet Earth is roughly equivalent to a three day supply for every living land plant and animal. Of course, the supply is ever renewing (It's always raining fresh water on the ground somewhere!) and a portion of that supply often remains locked in local storage exceeding said three days in area lakes and streams. Most issues of fresh water supply have to do with the distribution of need vs distribution of supply, or damage to the supply in the form of pollution (organic or industrial). Intensive water use for agriculture or industry over the long term will introduce significant distortions in local metrics (e.g., the vanishing of the landlocked Black Sea as demand outstrips the rain and snowfall that supplies the sea's tributaries). in a few cases, climate shifts causing glacial retreat are impacting local supplies that depend primarily on melt water. Micro-dams and other small-scale tactics to even out local water supply (or on the other side reduce agricultural and industrial use without impacting production) can be far more effective than most people realize. It does not always take massive projects costing millions to reduce the pressures on the water supply.
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8/1/2010 8:24 pm |
OOPS - correction, it is not the Black Sea that's in trouble of vanishing into dry land, it's the Caspian. The problem with the Black Sea retreat was fixed by the widening of portions of the Bosphorus strait for commercial shipping, so the Sea can now take water from the Atlantic via the Aegean through the Mediterranean basin when its tributaries are stressed at a rate far in excess of losses due to evaporation. Alas, pollution in the Black Sea along with overfishing still threatens the sturgeon that are the source of Black Sea caviar - a crisis in my mind to be sure and one that has constrained my supply (it is no longer imported into the US I'm told), but it is not one of water supply. LOL
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8/7/2010 9:47 am |
Remember that in days of the "wild west" the fights were as much about water rights as the land. Look for water to be traded by Wall Street as other commodities are now.
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8/7/2010 9:59 am |
Since I forgot to add this------We have ever increasing ocean levels. There's NO resonable reason not to tap this resource.
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 8/7/2010 4:02 pm |
Although a natural disaster, meteors, wiped out earth's dominant species, dinosaurs, many histories ago, hubris seems to dictate the idea that the human race will hold a top position on the food chain, indefinitely. ! Unhealthy, or unavailable, water might add substantial weight to the camel's back. Drink up, before it's too late ! lol
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